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NightRoller's avatar

This distinction, between just being a guy who is in the larger “manosphere” and actually being in the no-shame society we love to participate in and facilitate (the likes of which @TheRedQuest often wrote about), was something that confused me when I conversed with a lot of players, PUAs, group chats, blogs, etc.

It took me a while to start to see that some were wildly open (like myself—as long as politics are kept out of it), like @Yoylo , and some were more traditional (like Thomas Crown on Twitter, who I respect but differ on opinions regarding even basic bdsm and such).

You put this concept into even better words than I’d thought it in. Maybe I should write more, and my understanding of these ideas would be sharpened. Still, I’m young, so hard to make confident generalizations without being wrong a good amount of the time.

Then again, as a STEM inclined person, I can’t resist the bait you set by using “discrete” (separate, distinct and precise values) instead of “discreet” (able to keep one’s mouth shut about a secret)

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Yoylo PUA's avatar

You need to write more. Just describe your experiences, no need to try to formulate a theory out of it.

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Stripper's avatar

I do appreciate the feedback, but there is a deliberate reason for me doing so and not talking about myself much.

This is the only time I thought it may be beneficial to do so (even then it is debatable).

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Incel Theory's avatar

"Sleeping with a rare guy from the secret society is no worse than grinding with a girlfriend at a club and making out with her. “It doesn’t count”.

--- I always knew Tyler was on the downlow.

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Incel Theory's avatar

"To maintain the facade that women are chaste, innocent creatures that don't like sex"

--- These guys are idiots. What century do they think we're living in?

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Robert Taylor's avatar

Also, post online sugar baby dating, through sugar daddy websites,a good chunk secret society is pay for play, anybody with a sugar daddy website subscription and 500 bucks a month if disposable income can play

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the author's avatar

holy shit, never seen someone verbalize this properly before, good show.

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Stripper's avatar

Thank you, sir.

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Ryan Williams's avatar

As a Freemason and Odd Fellow, I have thoughts...

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Stripper's avatar

I too am apart of a Secret Society, but in not the context of what I wrote about.

I'm nor about to out myself by naming which Greek letter Fraternity I am an alumni of, but I get it.

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Ryan Williams's avatar

I only list my involvement in FM and OF as context to how I interact with much much more secret societies than I can name in polite society. Let your imagination wander, wander a bit more, then wander again and you might be in the neighborhood of things I've done on moonlit nights and in the company of strangers. Affirmative consent is key at all levels.

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Stripper's avatar

Ahhhh... picking up what you are putting down.

Yeah, the subtext "rule" RSD Tyler had is on of the ings that tipped me off. When you go deep overt language is a must.

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Ryan Williams's avatar

Have you heard of Owen Cook? Feeling out the vibe.

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Stripper's avatar

That is RSD Tyler. I only know this work of his. It is a post written at a certain point in time, so he may have refined it, but this is the piece that is most commonly sited of his.

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Ryan Williams's avatar

Well the truth was right there. How silly of me...To be honest, I was at a ballpark and slightly drunk when I first read the post. My intention was to put a pin in it so to speak so that I could read it again with more clarity. It makes more sense now that I understand the context.

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Bauk bauk Cock's avatar

The most important part of all this is: Be nonjudgemental towards kinks, sexual desires, decisions.

And: be discreet.

"Did you fuck her?—No, not even in a dream."

First when I read it, of course I was autist and also I didn't know what to focus on and what not, but then as I got laid first time I knew I just don't have to focus on most of this. Now it seems to me as if Secret society is some alpha male bravado like from Eyes wide shut where they invite you in and if they don't, you are "loser" or something.

But kudos: Back in the age his was made, maybe it was found useful for some PUA or who he wrote it for..

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